Thursday, October 23, 2008

Arkansas Straw Men - Part 3

Omigah like HaPpY hAlLoWeEn Y'a-wulll!!


Shazzam! The Ghost of Jay Cutler is gettin' ready for what is likely going to be the most bomb-ass weekend this side of Mardi Gras. A good but of us Red [REDACTED] Cuppers are going to be attending a wedding this weekend (one of us is getting married and, no, we're not saying who) and we're going to set a new standard for gettin' dranked. If Memphis is a smoldering pile of ash by Sunday morning, you can blame these assholes right here.


Anywho, if we don't do a whole lotta updatin' over the next couple of days, you'll know why.


Ok, well, having that been said, here's


Arkansas Straw Man Number 3: "Houston Nutt is the Devil... I mean, he porked a weatherlady!"

I would hope an SEC coach could do better...


To cover this, I'm going to use an excerpt from a swap piece we're doing with Razorback Expats which, as a member of the illustrious SEC Power Poll, is a damn great college football blog. No, I'm not bullshittin' ya. It really is a good blog and if you haven't been checking it out on occasion you really should. We were asked about the Houston Dale "honeymoon" and what our true feelings towards Coach Nutt were. Part of my response is below:

Look, we know that he says wacky stuff like "yehaw" and "special" all of the time. We know that he banged a weatherlady (go get 'em, tiger). We know that he's oftentimes self absorbed. We know all of these things. But here's what a lot of you Arkansas fans don't get: we've had fucking batshit motherfucking crazy son of a bitch as a head coach. His name was Ed Orgeron. He had the temperament, body odor, and IQ of a shrimpboat captain. He hated interacting with the fans and media. He bled Red Bull. He was unintelligible. He received counseling for his issues with domestic violence. He was arrested for getting into a bar fight… in Baton Rouge. All of this got him placed on probation from the Athletic Department of the University of MIAMI!


You Hogs love to talk about how horrible Houston Nutt was. Naw, lawya. We know horrible. Trust us. Houston Nutt doesn't hold a candle to Eddie O.


Arkansas fans really think they had it bad with Nutt. He (egads!) fibbed to recruits and (gadzooks!) had an extramarital affair (as if that has anything to do with coaching) and he even would make a goober of himself during press conferences! The horror! The agony!


Arkansas, we have no pity. This motherfucker was our head coach. Capiche? I've said it once before on a comment thread here, and I'll say it again: Arkansas may have had no shoes, but we Rebels had no feet.


And another thing: all of this finger pointing comes from a state that loves Bill Clinton. He can get his knob slobbed in the White House and everyone's all cool, but if a coach bangs a lady from the local news station, you're outraged? I mean, come on Arkansas. I've never seen more obsenely bizarre double standards come from anyone else.




Have a kickass weekend everyone, Rebels and Hogs.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

So you got rid of Cutcliffe for O, and replaced O with another Cutcliffe, except this one's worse at recruiting.

The Red Cup Admin said...

So you're admitting that Nutt is better than O.

Good. We're taking baby steps in the right direction.

Anonymous said...

You insufferably dumb cockgobbler, nobody ever claimed that the ogre your imbecilic athletic department saw fit to lead your joke of a program for three years was better than the dork. What is beyond your comprehension is that other programs have certain standards, and feel that coaches who pocket millions a year ought to be held to them - for behavior both on and off the field. Of course you had it bad. You made the worst coaching hire the conference had seen in decades. You seem to believe that because ole miss university (sic) is run by incompetents the litany of grievances suffered by hog fans at the expense of one houston dale nutt is invalidated.

It calls to mind the year 2000, in which Boise St. came to play in Little Rock and one of the players took a lot of fire from fans for describing his former coach as a 'used-car salesman'. What could he possibly mean? Nutt had had a decent season at what had been a struggling Boise program and was certainly better than the no-energy, no-offense, no-win Danny Ford.

But hey, we're just the foaming-at-the-mouth hog fans. We never gave nutt a chance. Had it in for him from day 1. We never really got to know him like the fine folk in oxford have.

DeanMoriartyMan said...

Arkansas. You are seen by the rest of the league as on par with Ole Miss as a program. Deal with it. There are 6 programs that count and six that don't.

Auburn, Bama, UGA, UT, UF, LSU

Ark, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, UK, USC


You can subdivide those as you wish, but the chasm b/n the top 6 and the bottom 6 is wide. Realize what side you are on.

Chap said...

I love your hate.

The Red Cup Admin said...

Hey anonymous, while you were too busy missing the point and not thinking up a user name, I was doing some numbers.

During the three Orgeron years, Arkansas earned a 3-0 record against the Rebels with a combined score of 110-28.
One-hundred-ten to twenty-eight... Jesus.

I never made the claim that Arkansas fans literally thought O was a better coach than Nutt. My point in evoking the voodoo spirit of the shrimper was to point out that while you Razorbacks bitch and moan about how "miserable" the seasons under Nutt were, we were experiencing a misery our program has not experienced in a long, long time (if ever).

To us, you're like Satan in last year's South Park Halloween special. You wanted a Ferrari cake (BCS Title?) for your party but instead got an Acura cake(10 wins, SEC West title). You bitched and moaned about the cake not being as good as you wanted it to be and ended up doing nothing but making a complete ass of yourself.

If you don't get this reference, you're lame.

RebelBruiser said...

You're just mad because he didn't coddle your overrated 18 year old 5 star QB recruit. All of the other complaints you've had are no different than any other fanbase that's had a coach for 6-10 years. When you have a coach long enough, you start to find little things that irritate you, kind of like when you get married.

So you should just admit that your fanbase chose to side with an 18 year old instead of its coach, and that's the real problem. Your fanbase bought too much into the recruiting hype, and it caused you to run off a coach.

Ivory Tower said...

If I had a Delorean, my first priority would be to go back to 1985 and set about on a passionate quest to save the Southwest Conference.

Anonymous said...

Pampering Mustain had nothing to do with why we couldn't tolerate Nutt for another lousy wasted year.
It started with Nutt taking control of the play-calling, which eventually led to Malzhan seeing the light and getting the fuck out of dodge, when he got the opportunity from the U. of Tulsa.

This was alarming, to say the least, to some of the UofA's best Fresh. recruits that was counting on Malzhan to change the offensive philosiphy of the "run right, run left, run up the fucking middle" football program of the past .

Damien Williams, who origionally commited to Florida that year, before he changed his mind with the hiring of Malzhan, and Mustain, who had the opportunity to go to any fucking school of his choosing, left this rinky-dink ran football program with no leadership, to pursue a school (coach) that could make a promise and stick to it.

There's nothing really all that complicated about it if your from Arkansas. It's only the one's outside of the border that continually jump on the National preception bandwagon, and continually try to make themselves look smarter by staying on it.

Here's the one major problem I have with that; the last mother fuckers on the face on the earth, that are on the ass end of that bandwagon, should be Old Piss. That's right, Old stinking Piss!

Your pathetic fucking AD, and who ever else, decided it was actually smart to hire this coaching reject of mathmatic porportions and then validate it with redicules "we are making baby steps" comments, while saying Arkansas fans are just silly.

Now that's silly.

RebelBruiser said...

So, what you're really upset about is the fact that Nutt lied to a few recruits? I've got news for you. Every coach lies to recruits. It's part of the process. Most of them figure out quickly though that they aren't going to be 4 year starters when they get to school, and they accept it.

You're still pissed that Nutt took over the offense and focused it more on getting the ball to his two first round draft picks rather than putting it in the hands of a few true freshmen.

Just a thought, but maybe, just maybe had Mustain and company kept their mouths shut and waited their turn like everyone else does, they'd have figured out that after his first round draft picks were gone, he was going to open up the offense.

What I think is really stupid is a QB and coach coming in thinking they are going to install a throw it 50 times a game spread offense when there are two first round draft pick RBs in the backfield. You were mad that he gave the ball consistently to guys that were averaging 8.7 per carry and 5.6 per carry? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

Oh, and nevermind the fact that your offense was 2nd in the SEC in total offense and 3rd in points per game in 2007 and 3rd in scoring and 4th in total offense in 2006. But we didn't throw the ball enough!!!! Cry me a freaking river. Your only problems last year were on defense, not with your offense. If you're averaging 37 points per game, your offense is working.

Good news for Arkansas fans is that you're throwing it around a lot this year. It doesn't matter that you're averaging 19 points per game and almost 100 yards less per game of offense. You're throwing the ball, so be happy.

For me personally, I don't care how we get results, just get them. If it means Nutt calls the plays and we run it 70% of the time, great. If it means Austin calls our plays and we throw it 70% of the time, I don't care. Just get it done. Apparently 450 yards per game and 37 points per game is not enough in Fayetteville. You have to do it by throwing the ball with an 18 year old QB, not by giving it to your first round draft pick RBs.

Anonymous said...

McFadden would have been the SEC's all time leading rusher if there would have been a pass threat.

Anonymous said...

I still, for the life of me, can't figure out why Arkansas hates Ole Miss so much now. All of the postings by RSC this week have been as a result of Arkansas fans going batshit crazy when we hired Nutt.

Why do any of you care? You wanted him gone, and he left. You wanted a new coach, and you got one. I don't hate Auburn because Tubs is the coach there, and he left us after the "pinebox" bullshit.

RebelBruiser said...

So, again you're telling me that 450 yards per game and 37 points per game isn't good enough, and finishing in the top 3 in offense in the SEC isn't good enough.

Also, you're telling me that winning 18 games in two years isn't good enough.

I know you hate to admit it, but your offense was successful the last few seasons. At a school like Arkansas, you're very rarely, if ever, going to have a great ground game and passing game at the same time.

And the reason you didn't have a passing attack is because you didn't have strong enough players at those positions. You had Casey Dick and a true freshman (Mustain) that couldn't keep up with Casey Dick.

In 2006, both Mustain and Dick threw 132 passes. Dick completed 65 for 991 yards, 9 TDs and 6 INTs. Mustain completed 69 for 894 yards, 10 TDs, and 9 INTs. And you're telling me you wanted to throw the ball more? 50% passing with 19 TDs and 15 INTs out of your QBs and you thought you weren't throwing enough, even though you had the No. 1 and No. 3 leading rushers in all of the SEC in terms of yards per carry?

I can understand that you might have wanted him gone, and there may be some good reasons there, but offensive production in 2006 and 2007 is not a good argument.

Again, the reason you're really mad is because you bought into the recruiting hype of a local kid, and you were ticked off when he didn't immediatly come in and start slinging it all over the field against SEC defenses. Even Eli had to wait two years before he got a chance to start. Mustain wasn't ready to carry your offense, and you Hog fans were ticked because he had 5 stars by his name which automatically meant Nutt should put him back there and have him air it out.

Anonymous said...

I will say this as an Arkansas fan, I am happier to have Petrino than Nutt. However, I think it was unfair what arkansas did to Nutt and so I don't blame him for going to ole miss. What drives me batshit crazy is the Arkansas fans who want to see him fail and bash him at every turn. You wanted him gone, and hes gone. Leave it alone already!

As a lifelong hog fan growing up in Little Rock and living in memphis now, 2 of my best friends are Ole Miss grads. The reason Arkansas has it in for ole miss is because its a 3rd tier team (not that we're much better, all sports considered) in the SEC yet ole miss fans seem to look down their nose at everyone else and think their poo doesn't stink. I will give you those though, your women are HOT!!! best in the SEC.

Good luck this weekend. I am not a Nutt hater, and would like to actually see him succeed. Just not this weekend. GO HOGS


Do you guys know what the state mott of Arkansas is?




....Thank God For Mississippi!!

Anonymous said...

rebelbruiser,

First of all, I want to make it perfectly clear (I hope) that your comment about Nutt taking over the offense and putting it in the hands of thier two first round draft picks, rather than putting it in the hands of an 18 year old QB, in pretty damn naive.

At that specific time, D-Mac and Felix Jones were sophmores.
Both of these guys, mind you, were playing the exact same amount of minutes they were in thier previous Freshmen year. That, in itself, make's your comment pointless.

At that time, knowone could have argued they would eventually be that good, so your argument is basically a moot point in correlation with Nutt's erratic judgement.

Lastly, the 37 points and 450 points a game the Hogs averaged last year is vastly over-rated, considering these 4 opponents:

Troy
North Texas
Tennessee Chatanooga
Fla. International

Take away these 4 jim-dandies, and you basically have a 4-4 team against considerable talent.

What would that record be if that team had played this year's schedual?
The first two games would have been won easily against W. Illinois and LMU, but what then?
Alabama, Texas, and Florida all have too much size and speed to let a run oriented, no threat to pass, one-deminsional team like they were, beat them with two future first round draft picks playing the same RB position.

Look at Ole Miss's record right now.
D. McCluster, E Davis, and Bolden are all averaging over 5 yards per carry.
J. Snead is averaging 55% passing, but is struggling a bit with the interceptions. (ah the interceptions) Where have we seen this before? Oh yeah, I forgot, It's all on the players, not the coach.

Your argument on Arkansas's (Nutt's) behalf was also based on them not having a very good defense. Well, The Rebel's defense is pretty damn good this year, so what's the exscuse for the 3-4 record if the running plays and defense are supposed to be good enough? Could it possibly be that your coach will never run a balanced enough offense with a legitimate QB at the helm? What about WRs? Will they continue to line up under center for half of thier college career?

DeanMoriartyMan said...

Gonzo said: "The Rebel's defense is pretty damn good this year"

Statistically inaccurate. SEC stats:

Scoring Defense: 11th
Total Defense: 11th
Rushing Defense: 7th
Pass Defense: 12th
Interceptions: 12th
Sacks: 3rd
Opponents 1st Downs: 12th
Opponents 3rd Down %: 9th

That said, Houston is responsible for the defense so this really isn't a defense of him.

Anonymous said...

I stand corrected, and your right,
The defensive line is one of, or maybe,the best in the conference, but the rest of the defense blows.

This should be a very close game, considering the tendencies of the coaches and the way thier teams have both played this year.

The Rebels still look solid, while the Hogs are improving.