You could try your usual sources of Yancy, Neal, or Chase/Ty, but why not try something new? Yes, now you can get your recruiting news from Cletus, Jedidiah, or even Stupid McJackass.
Those are three completely different Razorback message boards containing multiple threads about the Ole Miss program. These threads were not hard to find as all of them were literally on each website's respective first page of listed threads. These postsers are especially focused on our recruiting and recruiting rankings because, if you can't beat 'em on the field, you might as well try to "beat" 'em on the first Wednesday in February.
It seems that the Arkansas Razorbacks have begun to pay more attention to the Ole Miss football program than most Ole Miss fans. When you consider the facts that
A) Most Ole Miss fans really don't follow the program at all
B) Moonshine makes folks angry, bitter, and agressive
C) Methamphetamines cause days-long stints of insomnia
it really isn't too terribly surprising. Ole Miss fans are far too carefree while Arkansas fans are far too obsessive. One group of fans fancy this as some kind of social event, the other equates it to a bloodsport.
The only thing these two groups have in common is that both of them are trying to prove a point. The Arkansas fans are (maybe) trying to prove to everyone outside of NWA that they're not the ones being stupid and that Houston Nutt really is as awful as they say. We Rebels are still trying to prove to everyone in NWA that we don't give a shit about their opinions.
Nope. Not even one shit. Hell, we don't even give a half of a shit.
I guess my biggest beef with all of these message board users is that they're all so self-congratulatory. They're mostly comprised of a bunch of people who are bored at work and, as haters of their own lives, would simply like someone to validate their opinions every half-hour or so.
Those are three completely different Razorback message boards containing multiple threads about the Ole Miss program. These threads were not hard to find as all of them were literally on each website's respective first page of listed threads. These postsers are especially focused on our recruiting and recruiting rankings because, if you can't beat 'em on the field, you might as well try to "beat" 'em on the first Wednesday in February.
It seems that the Arkansas Razorbacks have begun to pay more attention to the Ole Miss football program than most Ole Miss fans. When you consider the facts that
A) Most Ole Miss fans really don't follow the program at all
B) Moonshine makes folks angry, bitter, and agressive
C) Methamphetamines cause days-long stints of insomnia
it really isn't too terribly surprising. Ole Miss fans are far too carefree while Arkansas fans are far too obsessive. One group of fans fancy this as some kind of social event, the other equates it to a bloodsport.
The only thing these two groups have in common is that both of them are trying to prove a point. The Arkansas fans are (maybe) trying to prove to everyone outside of NWA that they're not the ones being stupid and that Houston Nutt really is as awful as they say. We Rebels are still trying to prove to everyone in NWA that we don't give a shit about their opinions.
Nope. Not even one shit. Hell, we don't even give a half of a shit.
I guess my biggest beef with all of these message board users is that they're all so self-congratulatory. They're mostly comprised of a bunch of people who are bored at work and, as haters of their own lives, would simply like someone to validate their opinions every half-hour or so.
Talk around the "water cooler" in Little Rock
Will this EVER end?
74 comments:
Jedidiah, isn't that the dad from the vagina's not a clown car show?
I don't blame you guys. You're way out of Arkansas' league. I mean, Jerry is only paying Arkansas $5 million a year to come play at his new stadium, while Ole Miss is rightfully going to get $6 million a year. And you've gotta get ready for your big new rivalry with Arkansas State. I mean, who wouldn't give up a home game to play at a neutral site against a sunbelt team?
I would be pissed and obsessed too. It's like breaking up with your hot girlfriend because you got sick of her mouth. Then you run into her at the bar with a new boyfriend and brand new fake rack. You spend all night trying to convince you and everyone else around you she was a bitch. That sums up the current Hog/ Nutt relationship.
That's a whole lot of writing for something you don't give half a shit about. Enjoy your last-place-in-the-West recruiting class, chumps.
We'll enjoy our last place recruiting class while you enjoy your last place finish in the overall standings. Don't forget, college football is a game which involves points scored on a field of play, not some mystical, arbitrary group of stars assigned to a bunch of 18-year-olds.
You're right. Recruiting doesn't mean shit. Teh Kernel will coach em up. We only want people who wanna be rebels. I mean, it's a two chinstrap league out there. Winners and fighters only. We know.
Once again, a Razorback misses the point.
Recruiting is certainly important. However, the only reason y'all hang your hats so proudly on it right now is because you only won 5 games last season. Bragging about recruiting rankings is what losers do.
Trust me, I was an Ole Miss fan during the Ed Orgeron years so I would know a thing or two about that.
It is amazing how much hog fans hate Nutt, and bow to Petrino. I guess that winning streak to get them to 5 whole wins really has the folks enflamed. Good luck dickheads.
My favorite Hog fan attacks:
"Nutt has no integrity"
Meanwhile, Arkansas's head coach is who?
"Nutt's teams are inconsistent"
And remind me which team lost to MSU and then beat LSU a week later.
"Nutt can't recruit"
Nevermind the fact that his teams went to 8 bowl games in 10 years at Arkansas, including 5 NYD bowls.
What you Arkansas fans need to do is you need to go ahead and admit that your real problem is that you bought the hype around a 5 star high school All-American QB, and because of that, you ran off a well-respected coach. You're a second tier SEC team. Nutt got everything you can get out of the Arkansas program. You may luck into an SEC title every so often, but you are not Florida. You're not even LSU. You'll have some really good years, but you'll also have some rough years. That's the way it works in the SEC. Even Florida has its share of 8-4 seasons.
Everything you guys are saying now was said by Arkansas fans 6 years ago. If you guys are happy with going .500 in the SEC and occasionally winning the Cotton Bowl, then you guys are right. From our point of view, taking McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis and going 7-5 is not acceptable.
But you didn't have anything else moron. Everyone stacked the box against you bc Casey Dick sucked. Your defense gave up too many points. He ran the ball with those guys bc that was all you could do. You guys know what happens in this league when you're one dimensional.
This isn't a fucking track meet, it's SEC football. Basing your entire argument on two incredible tailbacks and a great fullback isn't going to cut it.
You're right. We didn't have anything else. Who's fault is that?
Why exactly didn't we have anyone else? Who's fault is it that we were so one dimensional for the last 8 years? We can bitch back and forth about nonsense all day, but one thing that is not arguable is the fact that the only year Arkansas had even a threat of a passing game was Nutt's first season when he inherited Clint Stoerner.
We never wanted a qb out there throwing for 300 and 2 td's. All we wanted was the THREAT that just MAYBE we could execute a pass on third and six. After 98-99, that never happened. You can't tell me it's a coincidence that a coach goes 9 years without developing a qb.
I can't speak for the rest of AR, but to me, THAT is the reason I hate the man. I could care less who he's fucking on the side.
"We Rebels are still trying to prove to everyone in NWA that we don't give a shit about their opinions.
Nope. Not even one shit. Hell, we don't even give a half of a shit.
I guess my biggest beef with all of these message board users is that they're all so self-congratulatory."
Funny, you don't give a shit, yet:
(1) You have a "beef" over what Razorback fans are saying;
(2) You visit Razorback websites;
(3) You take the time to make a lame ass quasi-cartoon (FYI Little Rock is not in NWA);
(4) One of the most frequent things you comment on is how Arkansas fans are silly; and
(5) You post on how Petrino is an "asshat" (why do you even care about Petrino?)
Yeah, it's clear you don't give a shit what Arkansas fans think.
Oh and Chuck, he does seem to have developed some bigger tits, but there's no way they're fake. Too saggy.
Whose fault is it Casey Dick was the best option? Whose fault is it that there was no good defenders? He ran off a superior QB because the kid (at 17/18) called him a dork. His ego is almost as large as his man tits. He wouldn't have it.
While the casual fans of Arkansas were happy with the resurgence to respectability of Nutt's tenure, those who were emotionally and financially vested wanted to see more accountability off the field and hard work in recruiting. Nutt put together some respectable classes at arkansas (25-40 or so), but he never addressed needs. Much like he's doing this year at Ole Miss, he's fascinated with the 5'10" athlete. You guys will have 35 guys on the roster who he thinks can be a WR/CB/FS/SS/DE/LB if they don't turn out to be a stud RB. He doesn't recruit guys to play LB who played LB in high school. It's too hard to go after those guys. It's easier to get a guy who "has a good frame" that you only have to beat Kansas State, Bethune Cookman, and Memphis for.
Ole Miss' current recruiting ranking is just vindication for long-suffering die hard Hog fans who thought that Nutt should have recruited better to Fayetteville after the millions of dollars we poured into facilities. He and his cronies tried telling everyone that it was "just so hard to recruit to Fayetteville, you can't get the big timers up there." We now have our proof that the university/facilities/campus is worthy of better players. Petrino and his staff bust their tail at recruiting.
It might never happen, but Petrino WANTS arkansas to be a contender for the national championship. How hard he's working at securing a great class is just indicative of how devoted he is to that cause. Nutt tried to sell the same notion, but he never put in the time establishing relationships with high school coaches or looking all over the country for guys who fit a position of need.
You guys at OM can point to our 5-7 year all you want, but those were 17 freshmen and houston nutt recruits out on the field for Petrino. You want to beat your chest now? Fine. I just hope you realize we didn't end up with 5-7 talent on accident. SOMEONE left us with that talent. SOMEONE consistently signed classes outside of the top 25. That SOMEONE is at OM. You're happy. We're better for it.
We can hear/read what Arkansas fans are saying, but it's not going to alter our opinions. Therefore, we don't give a shit about your opinions.
You can watch or read someone on their soapbox without their views altering yours, can you not?
This isn't conceptually that difficult, is it?
Also, we fucking know where Little Rock is. We're assuming that, since it's the Natural State's capital, that there are at least 4 Razorback fans there.
"You're happy. We're better for it."
Yes, but for some reason, you can't fucking stand the fact that we're happy. We're happy for winning five SEC games. We're happy for winning the Cotton Bowl. We're happy that ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and others have a Rebel boner.
Yet, somehow y'all think we're just a bunch of dumb fucking rubes for being happy with that. Pull your heads out of your asses.
I don't give a fuck if you're happy or not. I just think it's sad that some of you think Nutt's coaching was somehow more responsible for that record than Orgeron's players were.
I feel sorry for you guys. This is the best it will ever be for OM with Nutt. It won't get better next year. Why? An Orgeron recruit will be replaced by a Nutt recruit. It's a vicious cycle, that recruiting.
OM had a great year, no doubt. You should be happy. But i know if MY school just had ALL that great ESPN/SI exposure, I'd sure as hell expect a much better year in recruiting. Don't you get that? Sure. Live in the moment. But as a fan, do you NOT look to the future and worry? does Nutt's history not leave you cause for concern?
I suppose it's just a difference in expectations. Whereas arkansas had a BAD year and got horrible publicity over the past 2 years, we're putting together a class that's better than ANY class Nutt EVER had.
Look to this year, sure - we sucked. I'll argue that Arkansas performed better than expected this season. Everyone KNEW we would suck because the cupboard was left so are. But look at the future and do you HONESTLY think recruiting classes in the 50's are gonna keep up with Arkansas in the teen's/low 20's? You know it won't.
Your exuberance isn't irrational, and I don't fault you for it. But you definitely fucking know that your recruiting thus far under Nutt has been piss poor. KMart used to be a great retailer. Walmart surpassed them so vastly thanks to kmart ignoring their infrastructure problems. Ole Miss has to address their infrastructure problem (recruiting) or you'll never feel like THIS again.
That's the dumbest fucking shit I've read on here - nice attempt at covering your ass with ridiculous logic. If you didn't give a shit what Razorback fans are saying about Ole Miss, then you wouldn't CHOOSE to visit Razorback message boards (3 different ones I might add, take the time to read and process what they are saying, and then do a post about what they are saying.
Try to spin it whichever way you want but the fact is you DO care or you wouldn't read and post about it.
That's not conceptually difficult is it?
"But as a fan, do you NOT look to the future and worry?"
Nobody here has ever suggested that every season under Nutt is going to be a 9 win season. It's not a matter of if bad days are going to come, but rather when. We are Ole Miss, remember?
"I just think it's sad that some of you think Nutt's coaching was somehow more responsible for that record than Orgeron's players were."
On the flip side, I think it's sad that you credit a group of players that didn't win a single SEC game last season more than their new coaching staff. Do you not think that, at the very least, the change in attitude brought by Nutt's staff made a significant difference?
You'd be stupid to think otherwise.
Nutt is recruiting our needs. OL, LB, CB and S. When you have a chance at high profile recruits (Patterson, Brown, Scruggs, etc) you take it.
Also, this whole home-and-home with Arkansas St. thing... where in the fuck are y'all getting this. Your asses?
Seriously, show me a link or something. I'll believe it if you show me but I've only heard it from Arkansas fans and that's it.
Let's just face it. Arkansas sucks.
Petrino is a quitter. You had a top tier coach in Nutt, and you pissed it away. Yes you have had a few recruits drink the Kool Aid. But boy, are they going to be sorry when they wake up and realize they are in Fayetteville. Yawn.
Let's just see what happens on the field O.K., then do your talking. I think I'll do mine now - your old coach kicked your ass, beat last year's national champs, this years national champs and whipped the No. 7 team in the country in the Cotton. That's what we DID, not what we are going to do.
All of these Arkansas people remind me of someone saying, boy, you sure are lucky that guy was holding me back, or I'd have kicked your ass, while at the same time pissing in your pants from fear.
You blame Nutt for Casey Dick sucking? Have you noticed how many qbs in the SEC flop? Steve Spurrier, the king of QBs, has yet to find one that is even decent for South Carolina. We've had 2 All-American QBs (JUCO All-American Brent Schaeffer and Parade All-American Robert Lane) both flop in the past few years. Nutt also got Matt Jones who single-handedly won numerous games. As much as we love Snead and how great he is, did he win one game for us on his own this year? Hell no.
QB play is hit and miss, so when you find a good one, you better hope the rest of your team is running on all cylinders too.
I really hope all of you clowns come to Oxford this fall and watch Ole Miss beat the shit out of you. This year was as good as it will get? Last I checked, so far we have been ranked as high as #5 in the preseason rankings for next season. Let me guess, Nutt always does bad when expectations are high? The entire college football world thinks Arkansas is a bunch of fucking idiots for running off Nutt. But I'm sure you guys are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
Just so I get everything straight, so when we beat UF that was because of O's recruits, but when we lost to Vandy that was because of Nutt's coaching? Correct? Just like when y'all squeaked by two directional schools this year and got beat by Croom it was because of Nutt's recruits he left behind. But when y'all beat LSU it was because of the mastermind Bobby Petrino. Do I have it all right? Wake me up when Petrino leads y'all to the 10 straight national championships y'all think Arkansas is entitled to.
"This is the best it will ever be for OM with Nutt. It won't get better next year."
I love seeing this. If the Razorback track record for predicting things to come for Nutt and Ole Miss is any indicator, this statement will prove itself to be false.
"Nutt won't win at Ole Miss. Ole Miss is gonna suck."
5-3 in the SEC
"Jevan Snead won't do well under Nutt. Nutt sucks with QB's. He better be a good 'hander-offer.' "
Snead threw more touchdowns than Matthew Stafford this season.
"Houston Nutt can't win bowl games. He doesn't prepare his team for bowls. For him, it's about getting to the bowl, rather than winning it."
47-34 over the 7th ranked Red Raiders after spotting them a 14-0 lead
"Houston Nutt burns bridges. Players and coaches hate him."
His players and staff love him.
And y'all still don't quite get why we can't really take you seriously.
In fairness we did play Arkansas State once over there: I wouldn't characterize that as a "home and home." A home and home is where each team plays 1 game at the others arena. We played there once, they have played here numerous times.
Oh, and by the way, keep talking. Petrino is really a man of character. Just ask Tommy T, Louisville, or Atlanta. He won't be there much longer. Y'all with either fire him because he doesn't win it all in 2 years, or he will actually have a decent season, get tired of the incest, and get the hell out of there.
"did he win one game for us on his own this year?"
I think it is fair to say that Snead was responsible for beating LSU. He had a great game.
"your old coach kicked your ass"
Yeah- I guess I'd call a 2-point victory assisted by a phantom PI call is an ass kicking? Nutt nearly shit his pants with that last drive. You got damn lucky to win that game.
Wow. A part of this comment thread went something like this:
Hog - We went 7-5 with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis! We should have won more!
Reb - Yeah but that's ALL you had!
Hog - Yeah, that's right that's all we had! No wonder we couldn't win more games thanks to HDN!
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
#5 preseason ranking? Besides the fact that college football rankings are becoming increasingly meaningless (Ball State? Tulsa?), you can't honestly think that preseason ranking is any indication of how your season will go. Ask Georgia how they feel about it. Petrino may be gone in a few years (although, I doubt it), but Col. Nutt will be down at Old Mrs. for the next 15, following up losing seasons by winning just enough games to keep from getting fired, and not making it to the BCS (or playoffs, God forbid). Arkansas fans aren't pissed at Nutt because he left and we wish he was still here, we're pissed because he's a used car salesman who sold us a lemon. We're bitter for now, and bitter at OM by association, but you'll find no sympathy in 3 years when winning 7 games and breaking 0.500 in SEC play is the exception rather than the rule, and Houston Dale isn't able to keep the the best recruits in MS from migrating East, West, or Northwest. Enjoy replacing draft picks with 2 star recruits (there goes that buyer remorse, again).
Patrick Willis was a 2* commit.
He was also a first round draft pick.
this whole conversation is all a bunch of meaningless, smack talking, horse shit.
If there's one true fact that comes to mind on this issue, it's that Razorback fans (me especially)told you guys what kind of re cruiting you would see under Nutt.
He won a Cotton Bowl in 2000, and victoriously stated afterward that the Hogs recruiting would jump the charts. (well, WTF happened there?)
Now, here we are again with a different team, same scenario, same 'ol horse shit.
Oh and don't give me that limp-dick malarky about how your coach is addressing your team needs.
What your team needs is solid playmakers at every position, instead of literally half of them being a project.
Your consistancy at recruiting reflects your consistancy on the field. That much should be a no-brainer, even to a Rebel fan.
#5? You gotta be outta your fucking mind!
Oh yeah, you also beat the #7 team in the Cotton bowl right? Well whipty-fucking-do. while you, and the rest of the SEC all knew those chumps in the Big 12 were over-rated, you still like bringing up that fucking number every chance you get. Does that mean your over-rated?
You can take the #5 ranking up with Colin Cowherd, Kirk Herbstriet, and Stewart Mandel. I'm sure they are out of their minds not to have the mighty hogs ranked #1. Does one of you dumb motherfuckers from Arkansas honestly not believe that Houston Dale is going to beat the absolute piss out of you next year. It is going to be hilarious.
Ole Miss is currently top 10 in football, baseball, and tennis. Hey, at least Arkansas has track. Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!
GonzoHog you are such a fucking tool bag.........
I just deleted a comment. It wasn't because of the content of the comment itself but the username. I'm cool with y'all making fun of Houston Nutt, telling everyone how crappy a coach who just went 9-4 is, but I'm not going to allow people to insult his family members. They're not public figures, and they didn't ask for that.
Said "family member" made herself a public figure when she helped compose and forward emails threatening and ridiculing a certain Player of the Year Quarterback who had never lost a game as a freshman starter.
But your site, so whatever.
Also for those bringing up Petrino's 5 win season, let's not forget those precious 4 win seasons we suffered through with Nutt.
You actually only had one four win season under Nutt. Only two losing seasons overall. So I guess that if Petrino only has one more losing season in the next ten years, he'll be as good as Nutt.
Anon,
Toolbag? Is that it? Is that really the best you can do?
Only a piss-bag idiot like yourself brings comments into the conversation by stating things that were never an issue to begin with.
Hopefully, Arkansas will be #1 in the not so distant future, but to bring up that idiotic statement, as to suggest Arkansas fans really feel that way, makes your IQ look horribly low.
Juco,
Only one 4-7 season huh?
Try back to back 4-7 seasons, before Gus Malzhan came aboard in '06.
You obviously don't know your BS coaches resume as well as you homers thought you did.
Your reasoning for deleting one of the previous post is hipocritically ignorant.
You can't just pick and choose who you want to be put down.
You clowns lay down as much smack as anyone known to mankind, so don't try and act like you have some sort of integrity, now, by not allowing Nutt's wife to be scrutinized on your mighty blog site.
The integrity of this blog is low by most people's standards to begin with, so don't fucking act like it's something different now.
Did I spell everything ok for you genius?
One last thing:
Anon,
I can't wait for the Hogs to kick the shit out of your Oxford clowns in their own back yard.
If the game in Fayetteville was any indication of how your team kicks ass,(of a rebuilding team, no less) your right, next years game in Oxford will be fucking hilarious.
GO HOGS GO!!!!! and FUCK THIS BLOG'S INTEGRITY!!!!!
""Try back to back 4-7 seasons, before Gus Malzhan came aboard in '06."
Gonzo, Seriously? The Hogs won 5 games in 2004.
http://arkansas.rivals.com/schedule.asp?Team=ARKANSAS&year=2004
Old Mrs. barely beat Arkansas this season (and required a questionable, at best, OPI call to do it). What train of logic are you using to predict that "Houston Nutt is going to beat the absolute piss out of [us] next year"? There's a reason that none of HDN's former teams have anything nice to say about him, and it's not because they miss him. In about a decade, Ole Miss fans will feel the same way. You'll enjoy Nutt for a while, because, unlike Orgeron, he can win games, just not consistently with his own players. But, after a few 7 win seasons, with a 10-winner (requiring a few lucky gusts of wind) every few years to keep things spicy, the thrill will wear off, especially when, more often than not, trips to ATL and NYD bowls culminate in a big "L".
Gonzo...
You don't know what you're (sic) own football team's record was in 04-05?
You lose.
Good day sir.
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=30723&SPID=2419&DB_OEM_ID=6100&KEY=&Q_SEASON=2004
P.S. Your posts reek of integrity.
My post reeks with the integrity
this blog site requires.
If the shoe fits... you know the rest.
My bad on the back-to-back 4-7 thing. We all know that winning 5 games in a season is really something to cheer about.
You may also want to consider that Petrino wasn't coaching that team you refered to as sic.
That's just one example of how you people consistanly make up excuses for an argument.
Lose? Just what is it exactly that I lost, sir?
It damn sure didn't have anything to do with common sense.
"Old Mrs. barely beat Arkansas this season (and required a questionable, at best, OPI call to do it)."
This is, at best, a pathetically horrible argument. If this train of thought was any sort of reliable method to predict games for next season then you WILL lose to Mississippi State next season.
Please keep clinging so desperately to whatever you need to convince yourselves that everybody on the outside looking in on your bizarre behavior and hatred towards Nutt are the ones being stupid. It's pretty damned entertaining.
Hey, you dumb fuckers, make all the excuses you want. At the time we played y'all, the secondary was still suffering through an identity crisis, allowing your offense back in the game after shutting them down for the majority of it. Then, you recovered an onside kick. And you are referring to luck? Go fuck yourself (that shouldn't be a problem for most of you, in fact, it should be pretty familiar). The bottom line is that it shows up as loss on your sparkling record. In a way, Houston fucked you one more time: he kept your golden boy out of a bowl.
@ Gonzo
"We all know that winning 5 games in a season is really something to cheer about."
What was your record this season?
"You may also want to consider that Petrino wasn't coaching that team you refered to as sic."
I can't believe that you don't know what "(sic)" means.
"That's just one example of how you people consistanly make up excuses for an argument."
What excuse? What argument?
"Lose? Just what is it exactly that I lost, sir? "
You lost me.
"It damn sure didn't have anything to do with common sense."
I believe you are required to be in possession of something at one time in order to have lost it.
Juco,
You lost me. Was there anyone cheering about a 5 win UofA season besides UM fans?
That dog won't hunt with anyone who has common sense. (you not included) Almost everyone knew the Hogs were going to struggle this past season in Petrino's first year.
It was obvious he was an upgrade, compared to what we had.
Casey Dick might not be that good of a QB, but Petrino got more out of him in one season than Nutt got in three. There's a reason for that, just in case you weren't smart enough to figure that one out on your own. That's a fact all Ole Miss fans choose to ignore, for some reason. Oh yeah, I forgot, they only won 5 games.
To give you an idea of what it looks like to completely junk a particular system, and infuse another that's completely different, take a look at the Dallas Cowboys in 1989.
They didn't do it over night, but they damn sure made a hell of a big splash in '92 and '93 didn't they?
No, that doesn't mean the Hogs will go and win a NC in their 3rd year. (just so you don't go and get your panties in a wad)
Just like it doesn't mean UM will be a top 5 program next season, just because they improved to an 8-4 team this time around, but you can bet your last dollar the Hogs will be kicking the living shit out of Ole Miss on a regular basis by then.
Have your fun for now, mine comes later.
As it's been said on those boards you're reading, the Bitch (Nutt) is scorned.
Bring your comments here for a real discussion.
http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=65045.0
Ole Miss...get used to it.
Right now, Ole Miss's football program is a bicycle at the top of the mountain. Houston Nutt is operating this awesome machine, telling all who would follow to be extreamly excited about the future of the program. (where have I seen this before?... anyway) This is special.
How many fucking times do we have to turn down your "invitation" to post on your shitty board.
Read the post again. All of the "discusions" on WooPig, Hogville, et cetera aren't real "discussions." They're just pages full self congratulatory drivel. Every single thread goes something like this:
-Houston Nutt SUCKS!
-OMG I know haha lol NUTLESS!
-Ole PISS!
-Yeah, really, he's "special," recruiting class and stars and shit!
-Yeah screw Hooten Dale!
You all spend hours on the internet, giving each other e-high-fives so you won't feel like a moron after seeing that nobody outside of Arkansas agrees with you.
At least WooPig isn't as awful as that freaking Hogville, where even the most civil of comments by Ole Miss posters are removed. Nothing wins an argument like completely removing the opposing position altogether, right! Really courageous of you, Hogville.
Oh, and before anybody calls us "hypocrites" for deleting a comment in this thread, let me point out that only two comments EVER in the brief history of RSC have been deleted. They were way over the line (racial slurs 'n' shit) and incredibly off topic.
Last one I seen, it wasn't the comment that was deleted. It was the username itself. (if Juco explained it right)
I don't remember it having anything to with racial slurs 'n' shit.You just didn't like the fact that it somehow depicts the very essence of your own fucking blog site, but at the same time didn't work in your favor.
Let's here another exscuse why you guys are so great.
Gonzo,
You post here. Hence the site's greatness. I didn't see the comment that Juco deleted, so I don't know what it said. The one comment that I deleted (a month ago or so) was absolutely tasteless and unbecoming of even the most offensive elements of this site.
For the record, Juco did tell me that if what he saw had been written about Petrino's family that he still would have deleted it because it was overly inflammatory and did nothing to contribute to this odd little debate we're (still) having.
Ghost,
The last post you just wrote, made more sense to me than most I've seen in some time now.
The only part you got wrong was the reason why I post, which has nothing to do with this blogs greatness.
As explained in a previous post, I suggested you have your fun for now, for mine will definately come at a later date.
In the mean time, I'll continue to borrow time, while you and all of of your buddies take shots at me (silly Hog fan) and the other rival school fans who are allowed to post here.
It's as simple as that for me.
"The only part you got wrong was the reason why I post, which has nothing to do with this blogs greatness."
No no no, Gonzo, I was suggesting that this blog is great because you post here. It was a compliment ;)
@Gonzo
"Casey Dick might not be that good of a QB, but Petrino got more out of him in one season than Nutt got in three."
For Casey Dick's junior season from wiki
At the close of the year, Casey Dick held third place in Arkansas school history for touchdown passes with 35 behind Matt Jones with 53 and Clint Stoerner with 57. He finished the year with a QB rating of 129.67, good enough for fourth in the SEC.
From the Arkansasrazorbacks.com
2007:
150/262 (57.3%) 18 td w/ 10 int. efficiency of 126.63
the 2008 season
205/357 (57.4 %) 13 td w/ 14 int (+3 rushing tds, prob due to loss of strong, goaline rushers). efficiency of 122.44
In 2008 he did pass for 2586 yards compared to 1695 yards in 2007, but if you do yards per attempt, his 2008 season was not even 1 yard better than the 2007 season.
Does that seem like a way better season to you? Huh, bitch? (Got this shit from your own website loser)
Quit letting your hate for Nutt blind you. If you are going to bash him, at least use correct facts.
the only way he was better in 2008 was his yardage
One follow up to my last comment:
Isn't Petrino supposed to be a qb guru? Certainly showed it.
Also, Hogfan, please explain how "the Bitch (Nutt) is scorned."
Give some good evidence of this. This same shit was discussed Ad Nauseum on NAFOOM and not a single Arkansas fan there could give any sort of reasoning behind this statement.
I can explain it just fine, Monkey.
Starting over, means starting over.
What part of that do you not understand?
When an opposing defense doesn't exspect you to pass, I'm quite sure your going to complete a few passes when your coach does decide to let you throw one every now and then.
The worst problem with Nutt was he put his QBs in terrible 3rd down and long situations, over and over again.
(got any 3rd down conversion percentages to go along with your bullshit QB efficiency ratings?)
How about the fact that even though the Hogs always seemed to be at the top of the list in rushing, they always seemed to be at the bottom when it came to passing?
It's called UNBALANCED OFFENSIVE FOOTBALL, BITCH!
That's why he's at Ole Miss practically making the same damn Money he was making here.
Why in the Hell is Bobby Petrino currently making a 2.85 million dollar salary, which goes up to over 3 mil. for this next season? Because he's a better coach, bitch!
Like Saban and Spurrier, the man is glad to be back coaching in the college ranks, and it won't be long before you and your idiot coach will regret the day he did.
While your golden boy, Houston Dale, continues his quest to be an elite SEC HC, Bobby Petrino has already been recognized as elite on the college level, and has a pedigree that symbolizes greatness when it comes to coaching balanced offensive football.
Make all the exscuses you possibly can for your idiot HC. This will only make it sweeter for me in the end.
Gonzo
You say that Arkansas had the two best running backs in the nation in McFadden and Jones, and now you say "Casey Dick might not be that good of a QB."
Then you complain that Arkansas had an unbalanced offense. Let's see. Would a good coach rush more when he has the two best running backs in the nation and a "not that good" QB or would he force the team to have the same number of run/pass plays?
I believe any reasonable person would go with the strength and rush more than pass, but hey maybe that's just me.
One last thing Gonzo,
why don't you show us some facts/statistics besides just your opinion? That's why we fucking hate you because you just rant and have no substance beside you didn't like what Nutt did. Why don't you show me the 3rd down statistics to prove me wrong? I showed you the stats on why you are wrong.
Duh, Monkey. Who needs stats when it's obvious that Houston Nutt is just a little bitch who hates Arkansas.
I mean, he may agree to take several million dollars off of Jerry Jones in order to play a game in the world's nicest stadium in front of a nationally televised audience. That is obviously a swipe at Arkansas....
Right?
Monkey,
Get that week shit outta here!
Are you honestly not smart enough to realize that if, for instance; if I marry a woman, and stay married to her for a 10 year period of time, hit hard times, divorce, she remarrys to another man, (you) who is still in essence a fucking newlywed, who is going to be more straight forward and unbiased when debating about what she brings to the table in a marriage?
You two are still fucking each others brains out because you believe she absolutely does nothing wrong.
So tell me, if your capable, who knows the bitch better, you or me?
Well gonzo, you appear to not be over the ex as you are driven to talk about him at every given opportunity. Can you not see both sides to this argument? Seriously, you must be a high school student.
What we don't understand is how you consider your last year with Nutt as "hard times". Seems like you are still having quite a honeymoon with your new boyfriend and he even sucked in bed this year. Nutt just made us "come" 3 times as much as we did last year.
Please, I want to stats/facts not your lame metaphors whose interpretation can be twisted to whichever way one wishes it to go.
"who is going to be more straight forward and unbiased when debating about what she brings to the table in a marriage?"
You've obviously never met a person who's been through a recent divorce.
Greatness in the Big East doesn't equal Greatness in the SEC. Sorry Gonzo, but you're using fuzzy math.
Enough.
All this thread has shown is that a lot of people need to grow up. There are so many mistaken points and "facts" in here that both sides could use a good, long history lesson on SEC Football.
Perhaps a lesson on class would be a positive as well.
I heard Arkansas fans were members of the Luftwaffe...All of them.
Ghost,
I've been through two myself since Dec. of '01.
Do you need a link to prove it, or is my word of exsperience good enough?
Hayden Hodges,
Relax, i'm just having a little fun with some Rebel football junkies, who obviously have been temporarily brain-washed, or just don't know any better, yet.
Watch now how one of them will come back, repeat what I just said, and somehow disect it's meaning into something completely meaningless, which reflects their very ignorance.
I know, I know, I shouldn't do it, but what can I say? I'm addicted.
Wow... I wish i would have never found this site... lol
Out of curiousity (spelling) I searched Ole Miss Recruiting to see what they thought about a few porspects who were riding the fence between Arkansas and Ole Miss.. and again.. Wish I wouldn't have found this thread..
It didn't make me mad... But it did make we want to beat Ole Miss pretty bad next year.. :P
I think Houston is a pretty good coach. He's a good motivator. He smiles alot and is everyones friend... I went crazy just the few times i met him. What can i say I'm a Hog fan? But I didn't keep up with all of the rumors and junk that was going on when Nutt was here... Ignored all that.. But everytime I watched an Arkansas game, (The last few years of Nutts tenure) I would get so frustrated because we would rush, rush, pass attempt, then punt... It seemed like we did that a million times , but realisticly (spelling) it probly wasn't that bad... Granted we had some good games and some bad like every team does, but I thought something should change too... In 10 years I would think a coach should have a pretty good handle on the program... I don't think he did, and Arkansas fans wanted more.... I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting more, but the way things turned out did suck.. Wish it wouldn't have went so bad... (Nutts departure) But the majority of the fans wanted him out and what does he do? Signs a new contract... Which was smart actually.. lol but Personally I don't think coaches who have been at a school for atleast 4 years should have the luxary of a rebuilding year. Every yeah you should be building onto the next.
But anyhoo...
I would be more happy for Nutt if we weren't competing against him, because we had some great years with him. He got Arkansas out of a hole... Things we pretty bad before him...
But I know I'm not saying much of anything different than the rest, but its just what I think...
Look forward to the new rivalry. Hopefully it wont be this bitter forever... :P
Go Hogs!
Don't quite know how I found this site. However, since I am here, congratulations to Ole Miss for an outstanding (not my words but those around the nation) recruiting class, as Arkansas also had an outstanding class. Oh, yes, congratulations also for obtaining an outstanding (not my words but those of all coaches that I know and coaches who have had to go up against Nutt's teams) coach by the name of Houston Nutt. Nutt had a very good relationship with Arkansas HS coaches but his predecessor (Model T-Ford) did not have a good relationship. Proof of Nutt's coaching ability is revealed in how so many of our fans are concerned (and yelled like a scalded pup) when Honorable Houston went to Ole Miss. Boy, were they ticked and seem to still be ticked because they keep on bringing up Nutt on our Arkansas websites. They knew he would produce a great team. What they do not realize is that he had to turn around attitudes of players at Ole Miss that may have been abused by Ole ex-coach O and who regardless of the talent level likely would never have done what Nutt did in one year. There is more to football than recruiting as Ole O found out. It concerns Arkansas fans that they will have to face Nutt's teams. You might say we kinda got caught with our pants down! Let me correct one Arkansas fan's attempt to mislead you on Nutt's popularity. Only a small remnant of ARK fans did not like Nutt and the person who made the statement that the majority felt that way is not dealing in truth. Naturally, more fans will likely feel that way now that he is on opposing sidelines. Fact: Nutt was tired of his beautiful wife being given trouble at the grocery store and trouble to his kids at school. A father should be protective and Houston was protective but these unscrupulous fans showed no class. They invented every conceivable untruth that they could invent to try to run him off. What better way than innuendo and attacking his family. Ole Miss fans will have to reach down and find some pity for the low self-esteem that a lot of our Arkansas fans have. When fans do what Arkansas fans did, you have to ask yourself why do they spend so much time attempting to justify their bad conduct. These fans know they screwed up, they know they are inventing fiction, but people with low self-esteem do that. I have to congratulate Mississippi for you seem to enjoy more in life. I know for I have visited there many times. Perhaps, these few Arkansas fans will learn one day that there is more to life than attacking a man's character and most of all of his family. The last year Nutt was coach in Arkansas, I had to stand up in the stadium seat and tell the ones around me that were badmouthing Nutt to SHUT UP! There were only a few but they were loud...perhaps it was Jim Beam speaking. Still, there is no excuse for that behavior. Garbage inside always comes out. Within a few years, Petrino (yes he is also an outstanding coach and family man) will have great success. He obviously is also a great recruiter. He can also be thankful that Houston Nutt did not leave him a mess with the NCAA that Ole Model-T Ford left for Nutt's first 4 years or so. Congratulations to Ole Miss's coaches for a great season in 08 and a great recruiting class in 09. Also, congratulations to our coach Petrino for his success in recruiting. If he stays at Arkansas, and that is what everyone wonders whether he will stay, he will be successful. I personally think that Petrino will stay this time around until the fans rise up and call him stupid. And they will. As Ole Lou Holtz told me one time, "I am going to take care of my family (sic: income, etc.] because no one else will" That is what Petrino needs to realize and I think he does that the fans will turn on you so you better get the dough while you are wanted. Us Arkansas fans are going to have to pony up with the money to keep him but our AD is working on ways to fleece us and he likely will be successful. Fans tend to burn out on their coaches in our society in about 10 years. Nuff said! Go Rebels! Go Hogs!
Is it fall yet???? Cheers!
Wow. This whole Nutt thing has REALLY gotten out of hand. I think that Arkansas is mad because Nutt went to a rival school and because Ole Miss wont shut the fuck up about how Petrino is such a bitch. And i think Ole Miss is mad because Arkansas wont shut the hell up about Nutt. Lets all be quiet and not talk about coaches and about football
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